John, Very informative , John. I suggest you and any others consider buying a hydraulic press from H Frt. The little 12 ton goes on sale several times a year and does not take up a lot of room. Many of the tasks which are hammered ( desperation, I know) can be better done with a press and you will find other uses for it like metal forming, and I have used mine for a sanity check on coil spring rating of ebay springs (returned Speed Daddy springs only 1/3 their advertised rating.) The last ad I saw was $99 for a small press (memory?).