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    Found this deal on Amazon
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    Finally did my 99 GTP oil change. Went on a chow run and while idling in line I noticed coolant temp sitting around 220-230. Second time I have noticed this, and temp goes right back down once I am moving. I see the driver's side fan running and don't know when the passenger side is supposed to run. Hasn't happened yet at a time when I can pop the hood. My car does seem to eat thermostats. I can probably use the advanced scan tool at work to switch that RH fan on as a check. Can anybody tell me when that fan should kick on? Thanks.

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    Found this in my parts pile and tossed it in the car; I think it was a xmas present from last year.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by idrivejunk View Post
    Finally did my 99 GTP oil change. Went on a chow run and while idling in line I noticed coolant temp sitting around 220-230. Second time I have noticed this, and temp goes right back down once I am moving. I see the driver's side fan running and don't know when the passenger side is supposed to run. Hasn't happened yet at a time when I can pop the hood. My car does seem to eat thermostats. I can probably use the advanced scan tool at work to switch that RH fan on as a check. Can anybody tell me when that fan should kick on? Thanks.

    I did put some work in on the newest project blog. There are a couple posts worth of pics of the 1959 Pontiac job.

    http://chevroldsmobuiac.blogspot.com/2017/07/catalina-repairs.html



    The fans can't run independently of each other. The one that isn't coming on is bad, or a connection to it is bad. Which also means your low speed function is inoperative being it runs the fans in series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue View Post
    The fans can't run independently of each other. The one that isn't coming on is bad, or a connection to it is bad. Which also means your low speed function is inoperative being it runs the fans in series.

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    I may have knocked the connector loose, must check that because I seem to remember needing a zip tie on one. But another Q...thanks, Blue. Why is the RH fan motor almost a hundred bucks while the LH is $27? Both are listed as single speed. It was my understanding for the last eight years that drivers side is constant and the passenger side varies to meet the demand. I don't know where I got that idea but you are the first one I ever heard say both fans do the same thing and run constantly but at different speeds. Don't guess it matters but I like to understand things that cause trouble.

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    No idea why one would be more expensive.
    But these cars's fans are wired with 3 relays for a series parallel circuit. It is possible to run one and not the other by turning on only relay 2 or 3, but I don't think it ever does that.

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    $230 buck of exhaust work to the GP today. Tomorrow it will be brake work and some suspension work. Also going to figure why my service ABS/Traction control keeps coming and going. It is throwing my cruise control off and on. Thinking I've got some corroded wires or a bad wheel bearing. No bearing noises though. Then the PCM will be off to Scotty for some work, then she goes up for sale.
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    You're not running different sized tires are you? When I had a valve stem break on my stock wheels I threw some 15" Mustang steelies on the back til I could get it replaced. It effed with my abs/tcs and cruise. It wouldnt throw a light at first, but once it finally did throw a light the cruise worked as it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idrivejunk View Post
    I may have knocked the connector loose, must check that because I seem to remember needing a zip tie on one. But another Q...thanks, Blue. Why is the RH fan motor almost a hundred bucks while the LH is $27? Both are listed as single speed. It was my understanding for the last eight years that drivers side is constant and the passenger side varies to meet the demand. I don't know where I got that idea but you are the first one I ever heard say both fans do the same thing and run constantly but at different speeds. Don't guess it matters but I like to understand things that cause trouble.

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    The fans run individually and are commanded on by the pcm, they only run when a certain temp is reached. Fan #1 comes on at a set temp and fan #2 comes on when air conditioning is on OR when the second higher commanded temp is reached to turn it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue View Post
    No idea why one would be more expensive.
    But these cars's fans are wired with 3 relays for a series parallel circuit. It is possible to run one and not the other by turning on only relay 2 or 3, but I don't think it ever does that.

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    The fans run individually and are commanded on by the pcm, they only run when a certain temp is reached. Fan #1 comes on at a set temp and fan #2 comes on when air conditioning is on OR when the second higher commanded temp is reached to turn it on.

    Well, today was fairly warm, over 90 and when I started it at lunch with A/C on both fans ran and didn't look slow to me. Before starting it this morning I confirmed by touch that the connector isn't loose. There's a possibility it got wet awhile back in the high water incident that killed the A/C bearing. But I am probably barking up the wrong tree. After the last elbow replacement I had trouble bleeding air out of the cooling system then after a week or two noticed that the radiator cap I recently replaced was seeping. Not tight. Have not had any more leakage and months have passed but maybe I should crack that bleeder again. Water pump is not loose, don't leak or make noise. Ah, the GTP life. Anybody had a temp sensor or wiring to it issue? What did it do, did the gauge freeze or not register at all? Just a thought. Car is loving life today and I love it back, the issue did not reappear.

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    As far as fans go on these cars, nope they're series parallel fans. Very simple circuit and you can tell there are only 2 feeds to 3 relays. Meaning it's strictly a series parallel circuit. Relay 1 supplies power to the circuit. 2 and 3 being energized at the same time redirects fan 1 to ground and power to the other one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthee View Post
    You're not running different sized tires are you? When I had a valve stem break on my stock wheels I threw some 15" Mustang steelies on the back til I could get it replaced. It effed with my abs/tcs and cruise. It wouldnt throw a light at first, but once it finally did throw a light the cruise worked as it should.
    Nope. Same sized tires.
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    Drove in a heat wave for mn. 96 and a 75 degree dew point will get you this.


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    Well, grand total for 2 rotors, pads ans sway bar end links was $188. So in 2 days I will have spent $418 in maintenance. Stinkin' racecar......
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue View Post
    As far as fans go on these cars, nope they're series parallel fans. Very simple circuit and you can tell there are only 2 feeds to 3 relays. Meaning it's strictly a series parallel circuit. Relay 1 supplies power to the circuit. 2 and 3 being energized at the same time redirects fan 1 to ground and power to the other one.

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    I am no good with schematics. Over the last eight years and three cars for over 100K though, I have rarely seen them both running. Doesn't mean any of my cars ever worked right but that's my observation and it jives with the cars I fixed wrecks on as a body tech. Only other factor is the computer I guess. I do have a can tune that runs one or both for half a minute upon shutdown. As usual, I will just have to wait until the source of the problem becomes more obvious somehow.

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    Well, grand total for 2 rotors, pads ans sway bar end links was $188. So in 2 days I will have spent $418 in maintenance. Stinkin' racecar......
    How much are you selling it for?

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    Not sure yet. I will have to do some research on what it books for and what they are currently going for locally. I have a bit more work to do before I will consider it sale worthy. I have some really good luck with selling a few cars to a local small used car lot. i will probably try there first.
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    Getting new air filter today. Never tried Injen. Been thinking in my head "Injun," so at least it's keeping me entertained.

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    Rotors, pads and end links on. No more pulsing when I am on the breaks and no more clunk going over bumps. Forgot while it was in the air to check if I have a bad hub. Still have a small squeaking/squealing noise coming from the driver side. Now on to an oil change and send the PCM to Mr. Doggs.
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    Drove in a heat wave for mn. 96 and a 75 degree dew point will get you this.


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