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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    Infomation on HP Tuners forums is there, you just have to search for it. Or look for similar related things to find answers.

    There are just too many people that don't have a damn clue what they just bought into and want to be spooned everything. The other problem is that too many people try to tune a modded vehicle as the first thing they learn with, they just make it 5x harder on themselves. I learn have to use it with a stock grand prix, then I modded it. Again with a stock GEN 3 LS V8 with my 2006 Sierra and again with my 2010 and now 2012 Silveado's for the GEN 4 computers. It makes everything to much better when the vehicle is stock and you see how everything works when stock.

    I am still learning new things all the time and whats help me is knowing how the basics work. I have never done a speed density turbo setup on a LS V8 before but with all the time spent reading and using HPT on my personal stuff I know a great amount without having done it. I know the all the basic and even help others because I know what the tables are saying and the ways to change them.

    The biggest things I say are to read, buy books to help understand how certain things mean and do. Then if that is not enough they have online training courses and the tuning school that people can attend. Sure it's alot more money but the knowledge you can gain from it is well worth the cost to most people.
    Yes there is some good information on there, but I think they might have moved their servers and all the pictures disappeared. This thread has all the basics in one tutorial instead of searching hours. This is better explained for newbies. I agree with you on starting to tune with a stock vehicle first. It really helps alot.

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    I would be careful with how you tune the GM V8's, some of the things in this thread don't really carry over too the V8's. They are a whole new ball game compared to a 3800 with limited support and tables to change. Certain things on a V8 computer might end up being bad if you were to change them. I'm on the HPT forum alot and normally look at tunes and try to help out when I can, post up there for question. This site doesn't allow for HPT file attactments, so that why I say that.


    And the pictures here are somewhat outdated or really outdated to say the least but they do show you alot of what you might be getting into. They are since come out with 3.0 and now 3.2 with all new layouts and tables. New scanner functions won't look anything like what is pictured here. Also alot of new "how to's" have been added to the HPT forum in the last few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    I would be careful with how you tune the GM V8's, some of the things in this thread don't really carry over too the V8's. They are a whole new ball game compared to a 3800 with limited support and tables to change. Certain things on a V8 computer might end up being bad if you were to change them. I'm on the HPT forum alot and normally look at tunes and try to help out when I can, post up there for question. This site doesn't allow for HPT file attactments, so that why I say that.


    And the pictures here are somewhat outdated or really outdated to say the least but they do show you alot of what you might be getting into. They are since come out with 3.0 and now 3.2 with all new layouts and tables. New scanner functions won't look anything like what is pictured here. Also alot of new "how to's" have been added to the HPT forum in the last few months.
    I'm on 3.2. It's the same mostly. Verified af with wide band. I read on tons of places before finding this thread. I was mostly curious on how to get ve and set maf. This was spot on. All the other tutorial went Over my head lol

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    Just a a FYI. You can take your old scanner layouts from previous 3.xx and import them. Saves a lot of time
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    Quote Originally Posted by 91parkave View Post
    Just a a FYI. You can take your old scanner layouts from previous 3.xx and import them. Saves a lot of time
    some of the scanner functions have changed enough that it has to be completely redone. I wish I could remember which one's I had trouble with.

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    Does anyone have a copy of the images for the tutorial? Photobucket apparently changed their terms of service to not alllow 3rd party hosing without a paid account.

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    This writeup was for 2.24. Wouldnt help much with the new update.

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    it helped me get the 3.4 setup done, but I had also started it when 2.24 was applicable. without the images, it's even more useless.

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    Op please upload the pictures

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    He doesn't use this forum anymore, they will be gone forever.

    To me you aren't missing much with this write up, there isn't much to "get" from it. It's all pretty basic with a 3800 computer.


    Set timing and fueling. Drive it, log it and compare it to your commanded numbers, adjust as needed. MAF controls fueling and that's about all you need to know.

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    Default Re: Starting Hptuners

    You can also get help from all the guides on the hp tuners forum

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    Here's a copy of Gary's tuning guide, it's basically the same thing.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/vneh5ld9rp...uide.docx?dl=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherNick View Post

    After you add the degree dont forget to copy it to the low octane table like before.

    does he mean the temporary High octane table in the low octane spot or the actual low octane that we have to paste back in afterwards?
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    I don't mess with the low octane table, period. I only ever add timing to the high octane table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickisrad View Post
    does he mean the temporary High octane table in the low octane spot or the actual low octane that we have to paste back in afterwards?
    The high octane table in the low octane. You want to keep them the same during tuning so it's not pulling different timing parameters from the low octane table.

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