I purchased some led spiders this winter.
I then shipped some stock tails to Flip for a tint job. He asked me " how dark?". I told him dark, thinking the spiders would pwn all. After receiving the tails I installed the spiders and was not happy with the light output in the day. Also with the red lens you couldn't see the shape of the spiders. So I then decided to clear the tinted tails. The spiders looked awesome at night but the daytime brightness was actually less than before clearing. The red lens helps to light up the whole tail.
I then, drove around for about a week with dark tails with next to no light output. I eventually purchased another set of stock tails from morad and had them sent to Flip for a light tint. Flip sent me my tails and he accidently sent me the wrong tails, they were just as dark the ones i already had. I kept the new tails with the red lense and sent him back my tinted and cleared tails. Flip said he would remove the tint and lightly tint them for me.
I asked him to lightly tint the tails so i could feel assured that i wasn't gonna get rearended. Flip does awesome light tint jobs, however i couldn't stand the red reflector and the red lense showing through.
Example of Flip's light tint
I already cleared the tail so the red reflector on the bottom of the tail was the only thing standing in my way. I asked him to tint the red reflector extra dark and the rest of the tail lightly. Flip did an awesome job and later told me lighlty tinting a cleared tail was screwing with him. He usually uses the red lens to tell how dark the tail is.
Here is a pic of the first set of tails he sent me before I cleared them with stock bulbs.
Then the same tails with spiders(don't mind the different car mine didn't have a battery at the time).
Then i cleared the tails(yet again a different car, same tails).
The spiders were clearly visible after clearing(especially at night) but the daytime output went down without the red lense.
^cleared, dark tint and spiders
So after everything and all the shipping and buying an extra set of tails i'm happy with my new tails.
Cleared, lightly tinted with spiders w/ running lights on
Sorry for the book, I'm just glad i got the look and the visibility to feel people can read my signals.