CV Shaft Rebuild/Replace [*]

Reptile · 12-13-2007, 09:17 PM

Rebuilding a Pontiac Grand Prix Constant Velocity (CV) Shaft has now been added to the "How To" and can be found here

SyntheticShield · 12-13-2007, 10:00 PM

Now this is some awesome stuff. Needs to be stickied for sure. Thank you so much Reptile for this contribution.

Sinister Drag Designs · 12-15-2007, 04:57 PM

after all the research the vendors have done, and all the havoc people have had with reman'd axles. i would not suggest them to anyone. your average autozone or napa axle that has been rebuilt will not handle the abuse most people do to their cars on the street let alone track passes.
i would suggest used OEM axles in good shape from Ed morad/junkyard or brand new ones. Napa does offer brand new ones with a great warranty.
these seem to hold up well to the power that was put down with my old turbo setup(18psi daily driven). while that is not a standard by any means, the remans would not hold up that kind of HP whats so ever

there is a few companys now offering "built ones". if looking into upgrading your axles make sure whatever company it is uses quality boots and clamps that are better then OEM.

webracin · 12-15-2007, 08:53 PM

I recommend going to Oreilly's Auto Parts for the CV shaft if you are wanting to go with a stock replacement. For the Grand Prix they are about $80.00 to $90.00 depending on which side. This is for New, not Remanufactured CV shafts made by A1 Cardone. There is a 5.00 core when you buy the new shafts.

Part Numbers

Left Side (drivers) .................................................. ..66-1255

Right Side (Passengers) non-supercharged................66-1250

Right Side (passengers) supercharged.......................66-1256

Remans run about 10.00 less, but come with a 50.00 core charge, so get the new.....

I did a writeup as well on CV shafts and can be found here...

CV Shaft Replacement

If you have 650.00 laying around you can get these....

South Florida Pulley Headquarters - Your source for supercharged performance products!

webracin

Reptile · 12-16-2007, 09:07 AM

The main problem that I have seen with the Napa, O'reilly, etc. shafts is boot failure. The material they use ends up tearing after a few miles...and once you start slinging grease it's not going to take very long. If you catch it in time it's not a big deal to rebuild, but once the joints go dry your hosed.

SyntheticShield · 12-16-2007, 12:20 PM

Reptile, since you have broke down the CV shaft as you have, is there anyway to beef it up. Are there any parts and what have ya that you can rebuild with that would make the axle stronger or better?

Reptile · 12-16-2007, 12:58 PM

The ones on the GTP's are about as strong as you can make them. Really, the only issue is torn boots which slings all the grease out. IF you catch it when they first start doing it and there is no contamination in them, then putting a new boot on will be OK. The problem with the aftermarket reman ones, is when someone let's them get so bad that the bearings go out, they are rebuilt with substandard parts. The metal in them isn't as good or they might have missed something, since they only replace what needs to be replaced sometimes.

The bottom line is proper maintenance on a car is your best friend. It keeps you on top of things, and you can catch something quickly before it gets too bad.

Keep in mind though, that these joints are vented, and that some grease may normally come out every now and then. It's when you start seeing a substantial amount is when you start to dig deeper.

00 GTP Rebadged · 12-16-2007, 10:29 PM

I have replaced the boot on the drivers side axle. I torn the boot on the passenger and got lazy and bought a reman from advancedautoparts. The damn thing was to short. The next one was wrong too. Got my money back and bought a napa. Believe it or not, I have had not problems with it for over 2 years now. It was a new one. Ran the times in my sig with it. It was been through a few 1.7x 60's...

Randy

SyntheticShield · 12-16-2007, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reptile

The ones on the GTP's are about as strong as you can make them. Really, the only issue is torn boots which slings all the grease out. IF you catch it when they first start doing it and there is no contamination in them, then putting a new boot on will be OK. The problem with the aftermarket reman ones, is when someone let's them get so bad that the bearings go out, they are rebuilt with substandard parts. The metal in them isn't as good or they might have missed something, since they only replace what needs to be replaced sometimes.

The bottom line is proper maintenance on a car is your best friend. It keeps you on top of things, and you can catch something quickly before it gets too bad.

Keep in mind though, that these joints are vented, and that some grease may normally come out every now and then. It's when you start seeing a substantial amount is when you start to dig deeper.

I had no idea the things were vented. Thanks for the info.

Swash · 12-20-2007, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reptile

The main problem that I have seen with the Napa, O'reilly, etc. shafts is boot failure. The material they use ends up tearing after a few miles...and once you start slinging grease it's not going to take very long. If you catch it in time it's not a big deal to rebuild, but once the joints go dry your hosed.

True that. I've replaced well...about 7 of them all told - only paid for the 1st set, though. (the other plus with going to O'Reilly - lifetime warranty/replacement). The boots are ridiculously thin, and if you have a lowered car - there seems to be a propensity towards premature failure.

Wow...lookee there...I'm a linguistics gymnast.

Anyway - Brian's write-up is top-notch - as is he. But like he said - it is NOT something to rush through or attempt if you aren't at least a 6 on the 1-10 scale of mechanical aptitude.

-Swash

12-13-2007, 09:17 PM	#1
Reptile Community Vendor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,497 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (7) Rep Power: 2	*CV Shaft Rebuild/Replace []** Rebuilding a Pontiac Grand Prix Constant Velocity (CV) Shaft has now been added to the "How To" and can be found here __________________ GreenBastardPerformance2000 GTP Coupe (the green bastard) XP, Pacesetters, LS1 TB & MAF,MSD System, P&P LIM, P&P GenV w/ 3.2, 3.0, 2.8, Devil'sOwn Injected 100% Methanol,PowerTuned, TripleEdge Trans w/3.29's 12.92 @ 105mph

12-13-2007, 10:00 PM	#2
SyntheticShield Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5,730 Thanks: 9 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts iTrader: (5) Rep Power: 10	Now this is some awesome stuff. Needs to be stickied for sure. Thank you so much Reptile for this contribution. __________________ Scotty Hall Bartlesville, OK 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP It whines a lot, but I like it. The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

12-15-2007, 04:57 PM	#3
Sinister Drag Designs Community Vendor Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 77 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 1	after all the research the vendors have done, and all the havoc people have had with reman'd axles. i would not suggest them to anyone. your average autozone or napa axle that has been rebuilt will not handle the abuse most people do to their cars on the street let alone track passes. i would suggest used OEM axles in good shape from Ed morad/junkyard or brand new ones. Napa does offer brand new ones with a great warranty. these seem to hold up well to the power that was put down with my old turbo setup(18psi daily driven). while that is not a standard by any means, the remans would not hold up that kind of HP whats so ever there is a few companys now offering "built ones". if looking into upgrading your axles make sure whatever company it is uses quality boots and clamps that are better then OEM. __________________ 97' GTP - NHRA certified Drag Whore www.SinisterDragDesigns.com www.FairmufflerIL.com www.WbodyStore.com

12-15-2007, 08:53 PM	#4
webracin Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 744 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: (2) Rep Power: 10	I recommend going to Oreilly's Auto Parts for the CV shaft if you are wanting to go with a stock replacement. For the Grand Prix they are about $80.00 to $90.00 depending on which side. This is for New, not Remanufactured CV shafts made by A1 Cardone. There is a 5.00 core when you buy the new shafts. Part Numbers Left Side (drivers) .................................................. ..66-1255 Right Side (Passengers) non-supercharged................66-1250 Right Side (passengers) supercharged.......................66-1256 Remans run about 10.00 less, but come with a 50.00 core charge, so get the new..... I did a writeup as well on CV shafts and can be found here... CV Shaft Replacement If you have 650.00 laying around you can get these.... South Florida Pulley Headquarters - Your source for supercharged performance products! webracin __________________ 2001 Grand Prix GTP ZZP HUB 3.2 3.4, ZZP 8 Rib conversion, JC 3" DP Gen 2 cat & U-bend Delete, Accel Super Stock 8mm wires, DHP 1.5, 180* Thermo, Throttle Spacer, SS Intercooler, ZZP Fuel Rails, SLP CAI w/K&N Cone, Dynomax cat back, ZZP Tranny. 2000 Grand Prix GTP Daytona K&N, Flowmasters

12-16-2007, 09:07 AM	#5
Reptile Community Vendor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,497 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (7) Rep Power: 2	The main problem that I have seen with the Napa, O'reilly, etc. shafts is boot failure. The material they use ends up tearing after a few miles...and once you start slinging grease it's not going to take very long. If you catch it in time it's not a big deal to rebuild, but once the joints go dry your hosed. __________________ GreenBastardPerformance2000 GTP Coupe (the green bastard) XP, Pacesetters, LS1 TB & MAF,MSD System, P&P LIM, P&P GenV w/ 3.2, 3.0, 2.8, Devil'sOwn Injected 100% Methanol,PowerTuned, TripleEdge Trans w/3.29's 12.92 @ 105mph

12-16-2007, 12:20 PM	#6
SyntheticShield Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5,730 Thanks: 9 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts iTrader: (5) Rep Power: 10	Reptile, since you have broke down the CV shaft as you have, is there anyway to beef it up. Are there any parts and what have ya that you can rebuild with that would make the axle stronger or better? __________________ Scotty Hall Bartlesville, OK 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP It whines a lot, but I like it. The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

12-16-2007, 12:58 PM	#7
Reptile Community Vendor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,497 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (7) Rep Power: 2	The ones on the GTP's are about as strong as you can make them. Really, the only issue is torn boots which slings all the grease out. IF you catch it when they first start doing it and there is no contamination in them, then putting a new boot on will be OK. The problem with the aftermarket reman ones, is when someone let's them get so bad that the bearings go out, they are rebuilt with substandard parts. The metal in them isn't as good or they might have missed something, since they only replace what needs to be replaced sometimes. The bottom line is proper maintenance on a car is your best friend. It keeps you on top of things, and you can catch something quickly before it gets too bad. Keep in mind though, that these joints are vented, and that some grease may normally come out every now and then. It's when you start seeing a substantial amount is when you start to dig deeper. __________________ GreenBastardPerformance2000 GTP Coupe (the green bastard) XP, Pacesetters, LS1 TB & MAF,MSD System, P&P LIM, P&P GenV w/ 3.2, 3.0, 2.8, Devil'sOwn Injected 100% Methanol,PowerTuned, TripleEdge Trans w/3.29's 12.92 @ 105mph

12-16-2007, 10:29 PM	#8
00 GTP Rebadged SE Level Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 0	I have replaced the boot on the drivers side axle. I torn the boot on the passenger and got lazy and bought a reman from advancedautoparts. The damn thing was to short. The next one was wrong too. Got my money back and bought a napa. Believe it or not, I have had not problems with it for over 2 years now. It was a new one. Ran the times in my sig with it. It was been through a few 1.7x 60's... Randy __________________ S1X Cam/ZZP S3 IC/N*/Gen V/S&S Headers 12.42@110.03 with a 1.74 60 Before IC 12.46@114.3 with a 2.062 60 with IC

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