I just see it as if you don't like the price don't buy and go elsewhere. No need to complain about the price. You can always find a cheaper place but you get what you pay for in the long run. If you got a question you can call and someone answers the phone thats familiar with whats going on.

Custom parts don't just fly together. R&D is expensive and so is time. I usta do everything myself. Then i started looking at i can make 50hr if i work. So if it takes me 2hr to drive somewhere b.s. with them on a 100 dollar part to save 20 dollars I should have just spend my time else where.

Yes, I agree that no one should tell anyone how they should run their business. And please don't think I am trying to do that. I am in no way saying that Zoomer should run his business like this and sell his products like this...

But what I am saying is that this is the way I look at things. I may be wrong or I may be right. But this is my opinion and how I view the world. You may think different. Thats fine. This is my opinion and I am just expressing it.

I shop for deals as well. And I buy things at the best price. $5 will make the difference for me. And things have to be really cheap online to makeup the savings of shipping the item. So most of the stuff I get locally or used. But I don't buy from a vendor just to support them. Again, just my way I do things. Not saying you are right or wrong.

I agree 100% and I do just that...look elsewhere if I don't like the price.

Sorry that this statement was taken this way. I tried to explain myself by saying how someone can tell me they want these parts at any price. There are people in our industry that will take those guys for granted and cheat them out of their money. That is what I was referring to with that statement. I did not intend for it to be a slam against Zoomer or ZZP. It was strictly based on my experiences with my company and the industry we support.

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so you will spend an extra say day to save $5, then you end up spending more than that in your time, and gas. I will check around some, but I also will pay for convenience. I have also found buying some things online is cheaper than any local place (computer parts are half what I can buy local for instance) I also am one that will not buy from someone only on price, and will also support the independent guy first when possible (I have not been to a best buy in 9 years even for stuff I can't get myself)

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'97 GTP VS cam, ZZP PCM, and not much else yet

Zef, I agree. Everyone has their own opinion and they are entitled to it. We value your input as well as everyone elses. I really think that vendors will charge what they think is reasonable (in their eyes). It may not be reasonable to us, however there are those that will blindly pay the price. The good thing is when the product does not go over as big as the vendor thinks it will, you can bet there will be a sale and possibly even selling it below cost just so there is not as much as a loss in profit. Product on the shelf is not making you money, its the product out the door.

You can bet that if I came up with a 20 dollar (my cost) item that converted water to gas, I would not sell it for 25 bucks. I think 250 would be fair since you will be saving that much in the first 6 months you use it.

Now one thing I don't agree with is if the MSRP is say 50 bucks, and a company (not the manufacturer) raises the price to 70 then gives a 20 dollar off coupon or a mail in rebate.

webracin

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2000 Grand Prix GTP Daytona K&N, Flowmasters

I agree with that one also, MSRP is a bit high on most products already

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Steve
'97 GTP VS cam, ZZP PCM, and not much else yet

Its called marketing, MSRP is now 70.00

I don't set MSRP (manufacturers suggested retail pricing) the manufacturer does

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Steve
'97 GTP VS cam, ZZP PCM, and not much else yet

sorry, I was not clear in that. I changed my post to show that a company or vendor changed the price to 70, but the manufacturer still had the MSRP at 50.

webracin

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2000 Grand Prix GTP Daytona K&N, Flowmasters

Well, I dont want to bash any vendor in peticular, BUT if you have priced air dams you know the shipping is jacked up and costs almost as much as the product. I believe its a matter of demand. One place offers it and marks up the shipping to make a profit. Roof rails are another example. They went sky high before they ran out. I dont like it but if I was the business owner what would I do? Hard to say. These days you have to make profit where you can. I agree with both sides. hard to say there is any really right or wrong with it.

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Right, just look at Ebay.....

99 cents for a laptop and 799.00 for shipping and handling

(I know that exagerated, but you get the idea)

Shipping and handling is a real pain sometimes and you have to really be careful. It can turn a good deal into a real quick. That is one thing that I really look for when I am buying online, and just my thoughts are if you are charging reasonable shipping and handling, then I will buy (as long as the price and shipping/handling is cheaper than I can buy it locally). But if your shipping and handling are way out there, I view it as a shaddy tactic and wont buy the item, but that is just me.

webracin

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ZZP HUB 3.2 3.4, ZZP 8 Rib conversion, JC 3" DP Gen 2 cat & U-bend Delete, Accel Super Stock 8mm wires, DHP 1.5, 180* Thermo, Throttle Spacer, SS Intercooler, ZZP Fuel Rails, SLP CAI w/K&N Cone, Dynomax cat back, ZZP Tranny.

2000 Grand Prix GTP Daytona K&N, Flowmasters