This type of **** pisses me off. People that expect tips. Tips are AKA gratuity. Which means, I leave something if the person goes beyond what I expect for the service. For me, I am not grateful when you simply do your job. It's your freakin job already. You get paid to do it from the start! Now...if you go above and beyond what you are supposed to do and give me great service that I didn't expect. Then, I will be grateful and leave gratuity. But don't expect it and get pissed when I don't leave it. If you don't like the job and don't like what you are getting paid, then find a job elsewhere. There are plenty of jobs out there. Find one that pays better and quit expecting me to carry you in life.

Now, I must say, I do not agree that wait staff at restaurants can get paid less than minimum wage. They should not expect the customer to have to make up for cheap owners. This I think is crazy. But I know the wait staff cannot do anything about it and almost always tip wait staff. But everyone else like delivery people (which I almost never use), bag handlers (which I almost never use), garbage men, mailman, milkman, UPS guy, neighbor, wife, etc...they don't get tips. Well, maybe the wife...or neighbor's wife.

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So what you are saying is you expect to pay the same price for food whether you picked it up or have it delivered? I guess the food joints could just raise their prices for everyone to cover for those that want delivery.

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I think they should charge for delivery, yes. It's an added service. If they want to advertise free delivery, then I shouldn't have to pay anything extra. Zero. Nothing. I shouldn't be expected to tip either. Again, free. But I shouldn't be expected to pay for my free delivery.

Hence why I save my money and pick up the stuff myself.

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As I recall, I've never had food delivered. If they say Free delivery, then I agree it should be free. If out of the kindness of your heart, the delivery person is prompt and friendly, you want to spread your good fortune, there is nothing wrong with that.

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a waitress is free table service, so you have the same thing there. Most of the delivery people I know are working their way through school also (so getting a better paying job isn't a great option due to schedule) you also should know if they say free dellivery you are paying for it somewhere else

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I'd normally give them 3-4 bck tip...

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What about the drive through coffee places? Starbucks and Dunkin donuts have tip cups sitting right at the window. Now that ticks me off. I am going through a drive through. What the heck is the tip for? I dont tip McDonalds drivethrough, why would I tip a coffee shop? No extra servcie is provided. So how is a tip justified?

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no kidding, they get paid at least minimum wage (most get a bit more in this area) the waittress, and delivery guy don't get that

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Steve
'97 GTP VS cam, ZZP PCM, and not much else yet

Well, for one, I am not a nice person when I am hungry. The faster I get my grub the better the tip is. Of course, when I DJ, I am also working for tips so I understand the concept of it. I even have a guy that owns a pizza shop that tips me in free pizza cards just so I will play some 80s glam.

So let's say I call up and use a free pizza card and then order other things. The pizza is worth about 12 bucks but with the card and the other things I get my order is only 11 bucks. I tip 25% based on the $25 the order would've been, which would be about $6. If they get it there before or when they say it will be there, the tip increases. I don't mind handing over a twenty for something I would've ordinarily spent over $30 on.

Those who work for tips tend to tip better. It's just the way it is. I also tip the girls in the restaurant downstairs from my office who put together my lunch takeout orders, my hair guy, my nail girl, sometimes even the kid at Starbucks. The theory is if you are tight fisted with your money so that none exits, it's very difficult to put money in that same fist. The universal balance of things.

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I can understand that a lot of these people are in hard spots working to feed kids, or whatever. But everyone has to make choices in life. I don't have kids right now because I can't afford them, both with money and my time. So if someone chose to have sex and have a kid, then why should I feel sorry for them? Sure bad things happen to good people. Fires, spouses die, etc. But I give (and give very generously) to charities to help out the less privileged people in my area. If those people are so hard off that they possibly cannot find a better job than $2 an hour at denny's, then swallow their pride and get some help.

But again, I refuse to tip someone who expects me to do so, then gets mad when I don't (as the OP was ranting about). And maybe Michelle is right. Maybe if you work where you get tips, you tip more. I have never worked in a job where I have to tip. But when going out to eat I always tip 20%+. Who knows....

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