Down With Bush

GeddyLee · 08-07-2008, 11:47 AM

Ok thanks for making me take an hour of out of my life reliving those events. It made it feel like yesterday that this happened. I was at work at IBM in Charlotte when this happened. IBM had a building in the plaza where the Towers collaspsed. We actually received calls from the IBM center there from Employees talking about what happened. It was very surreal.

As I started to flip through the various Conspriacy videos I grew sick to my stomach. Sick in the fact that people would make up most anything to try and put the blame on our Government and not on the ones who actually conducted the actual attacks. I saw videos of people claiming laser targeting, to the sun dial theory of how the pictures were manufactured and that no planes actually hit the Trade Centers. Even the one at the Pentegon where supposidly a hotel security camera showed an explosion, but no plane hitting the building.

Frankly it made me ill to see that crap! I am not going to waste my energy in trying to explain away these bullchip conspriacies theories. It is sickening that people think this and will come up with whatever evidence they can gling on to in hopes of keeping their delusion alive and well. From the videos of these people showing what looked like MISSLES strapped to the belly of the planes to paper floating in the air appearing to be a "laser" guided device to guide the planes into the Towers.

And the stuff that Russo talked about? There never has been any terrorism before 9/11?? What dark hole did he live in???? I guess Beruit and other places in the world that experienced bombings and suicide bombers were NOT actually terrorist after all??? Yeah that's it!

GIVE ME A F***ing break!!! I am now broken in this argument cause these theories are just utter bulls**t!

I'm done!

GTPJOE90 · 08-07-2008, 06:54 PM

i feel since im the 1 that started this thread i should end it haha its starting to get somewhat outta hand lets just keep it PG guys lol w.e its up 2 u haha OBAMA OR MCCAIN YALL?? lol

Dr.Sherman · 08-07-2008, 07:02 PM

Yea, Im over it.
Believe whatever you want.

gtpinsc · 08-13-2008, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Reptile

While I also tend to stay away from political discussions....and there's a GOOD reason I do. I used to get into pretty heated arguments over political parties, and I just came to the conclusion you have to pick the lesser of two evils when voting, especially for president.

Voting is important, and your opinions on the people in office are important. But the most important thing out of all of this to learn is to do your background research, and find the facts. Don't simply listen to media....they twist things bad, and just because your dad or mom likes democrats....that's not a good reason to vote. My wife's parents are that exact way, yeah I think it's silly to simply vote for a guy because of his political party. Just remember, the ballot you cast will possibly shape the outcome of US economics for the next 10 years. It's a right that people take for granted.....but it's not a game.

I myself don't vote, I sit back and watch the world go by, and adapt as well as I can. Is it wrong? some might think so, but it's how I live my life, not how I expect everyone else to.

"and I just came to the conclusion you have to pick the lesser of two evils when voting, especially for president." couldnt have said it better

gtpinsc · 08-13-2008, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeddyLee

Ok thanks for making me take an hour of out of my life reliving those events. It made it feel like yesterday that this happened. I was at work at IBM in Charlotte when this happened. IBM had a building in the plaza where the Towers collaspsed. We actually received calls from the IBM center there from Employees talking about what happened. It was very surreal.

As I started to flip through the various Conspriacy videos I grew sick to my stomach. Sick in the fact that people would make up most anything to try and put the blame on our Government and not on the ones who actually conducted the actual attacks. I saw videos of people claiming laser targeting, to the sun dial theory of how the pictures were manufactured and that no planes actually hit the Trade Centers. Even the one at the Pentegon where supposidly a hotel security camera showed an explosion, but no plane hitting the building.

Frankly it made me ill to see that crap! I am not going to waste my energy in trying to explain away these bullchip conspriacies theories. It is sickening that people think this and will come up with whatever evidence they can gling on to in hopes of keeping their delusion alive and well. From the videos of these people showing what looked like MISSLES strapped to the belly of the planes to paper floating in the air appearing to be a "laser" guided device to guide the planes into the Towers.

And the stuff that Russo talked about? There never has been any terrorism before 9/11?? What dark hole did he live in???? I guess Beruit and other places in the world that experienced bombings and suicide bombers were NOT actually terrorist after all??? Yeah that's it!

GIVE ME A F***ing break!!! I am now broken in this argument cause these theories are just utter bulls**t!

I'm done!

it took me a minute or 2 b4 i clicked the "quote" button...have u seen the zeitgeist documentary? some things in it that really make u wonder

Keet04GTP · 08-14-2008, 03:07 PM

All I know is that I used to be a big conservative...Not anymore.... I know what they stand for. When Clinton had office, my parents had money, things were affordable, my family was able to go and do things... When I turned 16 gas was $1.11 a gallon in '99... 2 years later a republican is in office and gas prices started soaring continuously for the next 8 years.... Oil companies are making record profits, the country is seeing record setting foreclosures and layoffs... The president has the power to say enough is enough... They have in the past and can do it now...No, the problem is not only Bush... It is him and the rest of the good ole' buddies that got put into their positions and got their bloated salaries by kissing each other's @$$e$... I will not be voting for someone who won't take the initiative to do the right thing because it's not the popular thing among his peers... The reason this nation is in its current dire straights is because the republican infection has festered too long... If these oil companies want to make billions of dollars of profits in 3 months... Fine go ahead... but expect to pay for it in taxes... There is no reason that oil companies should be allowed to hurt the US by shafting its own people. Oil controls this country... And now since other countries are becoming industrialized nations, and more of their people own cars, building houses, and traveling the demand for oil is very high... So why would you hurt your own country by selling to other first... You take care of home first... The same exact thing happened for a company I worked for in the past just before they went bankrupt and I got laid off. The parent company was a grocery distributor. My company was a convenience store chain. We ordered the majority of our candy and grocery and automotive products through our parent company. We made no profit. We could go to Sam's and buy it cheaper than what we were paying for it from our own company. Then when it came to cigarettes, our parent company started taking on smoke shops and distributing to them before it's own company and would then run out... Leaving us to fend for ourselves. Eventually customers would get tired of the inconvenience and would shop somewhere else. In the end... everyone lost... All the companies including the parent company shut its doors for good... Oil companies are doing the same to us... Other countries are getting richer and Americans are suffering for it...

Deezul_AwT · 08-14-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Sherman

Aaron Russo. He has spoken up about the things he was told would happen on that day. He has made movies about it trying to spread the word. Why doesn't he get any press attention? Gee, I wonder, probably because were not supposed to know about this stuff.

Look this man up, he is a real activist with a real desire to inform people of the great deception they have witnessed.

Make that "WAS." He's dead. And anyone who continues to argue the income tax isn't legal is an idiot. But when you owe $2 million in back taxes, of course it's illegal...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Sherman

It's funny that we haven't invaded Canada? They're already an ally and they havent shown any signs of malice towards the US. Same goes for Mexico, But it's alright, we'll all be united under the banner of the North American Union fairly soon. BTW have yo uheard about the massive superhighway thats being built? Ten lanes stretching through the heart of the us up to canada and down to mexico. This is real stuff. Look into it.

I can give you links, too, that show the highway is false:

Lou Dobbs Crumbles When Pressed On His 'NAFTA Super Highway' Myth
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/12532.html
Urban legend of 'North American Union' feeds on fears < News | PopMatters

beastin1 · 08-14-2008, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keet04GTP

All I know is that I used to be a big conservative...Not anymore.... I know what they stand for. When Clinton had office, my parents had money, things were affordable, my family was able to go and do things... When I turned 16 gas was $1.11 a gallon in '99... 2 years later a republican is in office and gas prices started soaring continuously for the next 8 years.... Oil companies are making record profits, the country is seeing record setting foreclosures and layoffs... The president has the power to say enough is enough... They have in the past and can do it now...No, the problem is not only Bush... It is him and the rest of the good ole' buddies that got put into their positions and got their bloated salaries by kissing each other's @$$e$... I will not be voting for someone who won't take the initiative to do the right thing because it's not the popular thing among his peers... The reason this nation is in its current dire straights is because the republican infection has festered too long... If these oil companies want to make billions of dollars of profits in 3 months... Fine go ahead... but expect to pay for it in taxes... There is no reason that oil companies should be allowed to hurt the US by shafting its own people. Oil controls this country... And now since other countries are becoming industrialized nations, and more of their people own cars, building houses, and traveling the demand for oil is very high... So why would you hurt your own country by selling to other first... You take care of home first... The same exact thing happened for a company I worked for in the past just before they went bankrupt and I got laid off. The parent company was a grocery distributor. My company was a convenience store chain. We ordered the majority of our candy and grocery and automotive products through our parent company. We made no profit. We could go to Sam's and buy it cheaper than what we were paying for it from our own company. Then when it came to cigarettes, our parent company started taking on smoke shops and distributing to them before it's own company and would then run out... Leaving us to fend for ourselves. Eventually customers would get tired of the inconvenience and would shop somewhere else. In the end... everyone lost... All the companies including the parent company shut its doors for good... Oil companies are doing the same to us... Other countries are getting richer and Americans are suffering for it...

you're right....gas has just gone down to about 3.95 a gallon and people are thankful.....there is seriously something wrong with this picture....oil companies are showing record profits, and oh yea G.bush's family fortune is derived from oil profits

08-07-2008, 11:47 AM	#101
GeddyLee GTP Level Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: St. Louis Mo. Posts: 1,174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader: (1)	Re: Down With Bush Ok thanks for making me take an hour of out of my life reliving those events. It made it feel like yesterday that this happened. I was at work at IBM in Charlotte when this happened. IBM had a building in the plaza where the Towers collaspsed. We actually received calls from the IBM center there from Employees talking about what happened. It was very surreal. As I started to flip through the various Conspriacy videos I grew sick to my stomach. Sick in the fact that people would make up most anything to try and put the blame on our Government and not on the ones who actually conducted the actual attacks. I saw videos of people claiming laser targeting, to the sun dial theory of how the pictures were manufactured and that no planes actually hit the Trade Centers. Even the one at the Pentegon where supposidly a hotel security camera showed an explosion, but no plane hitting the building. Frankly it made me ill to see that crap! I am not going to waste my energy in trying to explain away these bullchip conspriacies theories. It is sickening that people think this and will come up with whatever evidence they can gling on to in hopes of keeping their delusion alive and well. From the videos of these people showing what looked like MISSLES strapped to the belly of the planes to paper floating in the air appearing to be a "laser" guided device to guide the planes into the Towers. And the stuff that Russo talked about? There never has been any terrorism before 9/11?? What dark hole did he live in???? I guess Beruit and other places in the world that experienced bombings and suicide bombers were NOT actually terrorist after all??? Yeah that's it! GIVE ME A F*ing break!!! I am now broken in this argument cause these theories are just utter bullst! I'm done! __________________ James Shafer 2003 GP GTX St. Louis MO 1.9 Modified Rockers, TOGs, 180 Tstat, PRJ 10.4 Wires, P/P Gen 3, SLP Ram Air Hood/Wizaired CAI, Gen 1 Spoiler, 3.5 Pulley, 18" TSW Mondellos w/ AGX Struts, SSC Gen II Springs

08-07-2008, 06:54 PM	#102
GTPJOE90 GTP Level Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Outside of Mchenry IL. Posts: 1,967 Thanks: 15 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: (0)	Re: Down With Bush i feel since im the 1 that started this thread i should end it haha its starting to get somewhat outta hand lets just keep it PG guys lol w.e its up 2 u haha OBAMA OR MCCAIN YALL?? lol __________________ 99 DARK BRONZEMIST METALLIC GTP SUPERCHARGED SEDAN. --MODS-- FWI, 104 plugs MSD coils and wires, 180 t-stat, dual thrush exhaust, Kenwood complete system 10' Sub ported, raised spoiler, red calis, D/S Baer rotors, Hawk Pads.

08-07-2008, 07:02 PM	#103
Dr.Sherman SE Level Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OHIO Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Re: Down With Bush Yea, Im over it. Believe whatever you want.

08-14-2008, 03:07 PM	#106
Keet04GTP SE Level Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tulsa Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Re: Down With Bush All I know is that I used to be a big conservative...Not anymore.... I know what they stand for. When Clinton had office, my parents had money, things were affordable, my family was able to go and do things... When I turned 16 gas was $1.11 a gallon in '99... 2 years later a republican is in office and gas prices started soaring continuously for the next 8 years.... Oil companies are making record profits, the country is seeing record setting foreclosures and layoffs... The president has the power to say enough is enough... They have in the past and can do it now...No, the problem is not only Bush... It is him and the rest of the good ole' buddies that got put into their positions and got their bloated salaries by kissing each other's @$$e$... I will not be voting for someone who won't take the initiative to do the right thing because it's not the popular thing among his peers... The reason this nation is in its current dire straights is because the republican infection has festered too long... If these oil companies want to make billions of dollars of profits in 3 months... Fine go ahead... but expect to pay for it in taxes... There is no reason that oil companies should be allowed to hurt the US by shafting its own people. Oil controls this country... And now since other countries are becoming industrialized nations, and more of their people own cars, building houses, and traveling the demand for oil is very high... So why would you hurt your own country by selling to other first... You take care of home first... The same exact thing happened for a company I worked for in the past just before they went bankrupt and I got laid off. The parent company was a grocery distributor. My company was a convenience store chain. We ordered the majority of our candy and grocery and automotive products through our parent company. We made no profit. We could go to Sam's and buy it cheaper than what we were paying for it from our own company. Then when it came to cigarettes, our parent company started taking on smoke shops and distributing to them before it's own company and would then run out... Leaving us to fend for ourselves. Eventually customers would get tired of the inconvenience and would shop somewhere else. In the end... everyone lost... All the companies including the parent company shut its doors for good... Oil companies are doing the same to us... Other countries are getting richer and Americans are suffering for it... __________________ 2004 White GTP...Stock Stock Stock...Soon...3.0 ZZP MPS, ported blower, Pacesetter Coated Headers, FWI, Tuned PCM, VS cam, 105# springs, JP timing chain, whisper resonator and custom exhaust...My next goal(after I rebuild my savings)... 2.5" IC, 2.6 pulley, XPZ Cam, S3 heads, and a tranny....

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