$900

Ron Vogel · 02-09-2008, 12:27 PM

That's what my wife is alowing me to have to build my motor!

So, that's a new block and heads, all machined.
Fabricated headers, all new bolts and gaskets, new TQ converter.

Thnik it can be done? lol

Trannyman95 · 02-09-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Vogel

That's what my wife is alowing me to have to build my motor!

So, that's a new block and heads, all machined.
Fabricated headers, all new bolts and gaskets, new TQ converter.

Thnik it can be done? lol

No sweat Ron, no sweat! The engine in my cutlass has less $$ than that in the engine and non intercooled ran 12.20s with room left over. I just rebuilt an L67 engine for a friend and all parts and machine work were around $700 with stock pistons and honing the block to clean it up. Now fabricated headers and a converter may throw a wrench into your available funds, but tubing is not that expensive and Im sure you are doing all of this yourself. When you cut out the labor cost of everything then you should be fine.

Ron Vogel · 02-09-2008, 01:15 PM

Well, I have $110 into header parts right now. Ordered some things last night. I did 6 combination bends with 1 5/8" tubing, and the flanges themselves for $40. I may make my own merges to save money, but the ball/socket flanges will cost a little, as well as the coating.

I'm looking to offest the cost by selling my coated s&s that are currently on the car. Seemed to make sense to do the headers first, since I have the block and heads to do mock up.

I am having the rotating assembly balanced, the block decked and squared, the heads milled down, new guides and valve job. I need to find a decent shop that's reasonable. I don't want to go to the cheapest place and end up with a 40K mile boat anchor down the road.

If you know a decent machine shop that's reasonable I'm open to suggesstions.

19SE92 · 02-09-2008, 01:53 PM

No idea but good luck Ron keep us posted and post lots of pics please.

David99GTP · 02-09-2008, 05:27 PM

900 is a good start. My wife let me start with headlights and tires LOL, been down hill ever since. I need a self help group to join now ha ha

19SE92 · 02-09-2008, 05:34 PM

Trannyman95 · 02-10-2008, 12:21 AM

Not sure what to tell you on the machine shop Ron, especially over your way. I have one that I use but there are things im not 100% crazy about, though they are very thorough and use a Serdi valve seat/grinding machine which most smaller shops dont have and makes near perfect seats and cuts the exact same on every seat. I used to work at a machine shop and did everything I could there, including balancing as they had a really nice balancer machine and I calibrated it a few times to make sure it was working right as sometimes idiots would get their hands on it and I dont trust anyone around equipment like that, especially when I had to use it for customers race engines and they want what they paid for. Its a tough call and I know where you are coming from on where to go, I feel no matter how nice the equipment is the machine work only is as good as the guy doing the work and its not hard to have something just a hair out of spec and not be told about it. It really amazed me that 4 out of the last 5 cranks i had at the machine shop I now use told me that there were cracks in them! These were all good running engines for the most part and the bearing surfaces were not bad and really only needed a polish job, but I will have them magnafluxed to be 100% on them. They even showed me the cracks as they use dye and a large UV light to detect them. The machine work really does add up quick though but doing all the labor yourself really helps out with the bill.

UR LOSN · 02-10-2008, 08:32 PM

where theres a will theres a way..... thats what my mom always says

archemedes · 02-11-2008, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David99GTP

900 is a good start. My wife let me start with headlights and tires LOL, been down hill ever since. I need a self help group to join now ha ha

isn't that what this place is?

David99GTP · 02-12-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by archemedes

isn't that what this place is?

Ha Ha Thats what I tell her

02-09-2008, 12:27 PM	#1
Ron Vogel SE Level Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 145 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 1	$900 That's what my wife is alowing me to have to build my motor! So, that's a new block and heads, all machined. Fabricated headers, all new bolts and gaskets, new TQ converter. Thnik it can be done? lol __________________ http://www.myspace.com/ronvogelronvogel http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234369500 [link=http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=855551]Ron Vogel Soundclick page[/link]

02-09-2008, 01:15 PM	#3
Ron Vogel SE Level Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 145 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 1	Re: $900 Well, I have $110 into header parts right now. Ordered some things last night. I did 6 combination bends with 1 5/8" tubing, and the flanges themselves for $40. I may make my own merges to save money, but the ball/socket flanges will cost a little, as well as the coating. I'm looking to offest the cost by selling my coated s&s that are currently on the car. Seemed to make sense to do the headers first, since I have the block and heads to do mock up. I am having the rotating assembly balanced, the block decked and squared, the heads milled down, new guides and valve job. I need to find a decent shop that's reasonable. I don't want to go to the cheapest place and end up with a 40K mile boat anchor down the road. If you know a decent machine shop that's reasonable I'm open to suggesstions. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/ronvogelronvogel http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234369500 [link=http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=855551]Ron Vogel Soundclick page[/link]

02-09-2008, 01:53 PM	#4
19SE92 GT Level Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Port Richey Florida Posts: 401 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 0	Re: $900 No idea but good luck Ron keep us posted and post lots of pics please. __________________ 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix Gt Bone Stock Till Paid For 1992 Pontiac Grand Prix Se Sleeping To Be Re Born Soon

02-09-2008, 05:27 PM	#5
David99GTP GTX Level Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte Posts: 895 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (1) Rep Power: 1	Re: $900 900 is a good start. My wife let me start with headlights and tires LOL, been down hill ever since. I need a self help group to join now ha ha __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2619487 2008 Spring Autofair "Best Of Show" 2007 Fall Autofair " Best Of Show" 2007 Spring Autofair "Cleanest Engine Bay"

02-09-2008, 05:34 PM	#6
19SE92 GT Level Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Port Richey Florida Posts: 401 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 0	Re: $900 Lol __________________ 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix Gt Bone Stock Till Paid For 1992 Pontiac Grand Prix Se Sleeping To Be Re Born Soon

02-10-2008, 12:21 AM	#7
Trannyman95 Transmission Expert Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (3) Rep Power: 2	Re: $900 Not sure what to tell you on the machine shop Ron, especially over your way. I have one that I use but there are things im not 100% crazy about, though they are very thorough and use a Serdi valve seat/grinding machine which most smaller shops dont have and makes near perfect seats and cuts the exact same on every seat. I used to work at a machine shop and did everything I could there, including balancing as they had a really nice balancer machine and I calibrated it a few times to make sure it was working right as sometimes idiots would get their hands on it and I dont trust anyone around equipment like that, especially when I had to use it for customers race engines and they want what they paid for. Its a tough call and I know where you are coming from on where to go, I feel no matter how nice the equipment is the machine work only is as good as the guy doing the work and its not hard to have something just a hair out of spec and not be told about it. It really amazed me that 4 out of the last 5 cranks i had at the machine shop I now use told me that there were cracks in them! These were all good running engines for the most part and the bearing surfaces were not bad and really only needed a polish job, but I will have them magnafluxed to be 100% on them. They even showed me the cracks as they use dye and a large UV light to detect them. The machine work really does add up quick though but doing all the labor yourself really helps out with the bill. __________________ www.TripleEdgePerformance.com 4T65E Transmission Info Voted GPF.net Community Hero

02-10-2008, 08:32 PM	#8
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