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This is a discussion on ZZP diff squirter within the W Body 1997 to current 4 speed Automatic (4T65E) (4T65E-HD) forums, part of the W Body Tech category; Yeah that was the picture that I saw like 2 years ago on clubgp....


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Old 06-17-2008, 11:20 PM   #11
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Yeah that was the picture that I saw like 2 years ago on clubgp.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:22 AM   #12
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Now here is my question. A line is brazed into another and there is a soft line just down from there. I understand that if done correctly brazed lines are solid and reliable, but why go that route when you have a soft line you could use to install a T into or something?

Why not disconnect one end of that soft line, install a T or something, maybe with a line that is 1/8 - 3/16" dia., use another soft line to connect the other end of the T back up to the hard line and then just route the T over to where the squirter is going.

I mean, wouldnt that be easier? It seems, to me anyway, that it would most certainly be easier for the 'home mechanic' such as myself that doesnt have access to brazing tools.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:43 PM   #13
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Why not just use AN fittings or swagelock fittings which really easily hold up to the low pressure.
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I actually thought of using AN fittings, but I wasnt sure they would hold up in that environment or in those conditions.
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Default Re: ZZP diff squirter

AN fitting could easily handle the 20-40 psi or what not. As far as vibration goes, they use them in aircraft engines bay which have a lot of vibration. I would know this because my dad and I built a Vans Aircraft RV-6A about 8 years ago.
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Well okay then. Guess its time to look at this a little perhaps.
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AN = Air Force/ Navy. We put those fittings under much more extreme conditions than inside a tranny pan. How about on the side of a jet engine at supersonic speeds and temps in excess of 700*F?
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I dunno if I want any Air Force/Navy stuff in my car. Its been reported to cause all kinds of weird stuff, LOL.

Well that is good info to know. I guess now its just a matter of finding out where its best to tap in and what size tube to use. I was thinking 1/8 - 3/16" would be perfect, but I havent checked to see if there are AN fittings for that small of tubing. I would imagine there is, I think brake line is on the upper end of that range.
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Default Re: ZZP diff squirter

Yeah they make AN fittings smaller than 3/16 I believe. We had some 3/16 tubing on the plane for priming the engine.

AN fittings are 37 degrees when flared correctly, while brake lines are flared at 45 degrees. Most flare tools are 45 degrees so to be done right, you should invest in a 37 degree tool. Although you should be fine with a 45 degree tool as the pressure is so low, and it wouldn't matter a whole lot if you did have a leak
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Yeah they make AN fittings smaller than 3/16 I believe. We had some 3/16 tubing on the plane for priming the engine.

AN fittings are 37 degrees when flared correctly, while brake lines are flared at 45 degrees. Most flare tools are 45 degrees so to be done right, you should invest in a 37 degree tool. Although you should be fine with a 45 degree tool as the pressure is so low, and it wouldn't matter a whole lot if you did have a leak

That is true. Where do I find a 37* flaring tool? I do not believe I have ever seen one of those locally before.
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