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This is a discussion on Official 4t65e-HD Rebuild within the W Body 1997 to current 4 speed Automatic (4T65E) (4T65E-HD) forums, part of the W Body Tech category; I'll get you my links and provide some insight this weekend regarding the AN diff squirter setup I was contemplating. ...


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Old 07-17-2008, 10:10 PM   #41
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Default Re: Official 4t65e-HD Rebuild

I'll get you my links and provide some insight this weekend regarding the AN diff squirter setup I was contemplating.

I spent 2.5 hrs tonight and got the torque converter bolted on, starter installed, engine mount installed, tranny support bracket, diff support bracket, drained power steering fluid (smelled worse than my supercharger fluid did), and a few other things.

Friday hopefully I'll get the cradle installed with no issues, install the steering rack, and swap out drivers side spindle.

The only thing that might prevent me from testing my car late friday would be my new oil sending unit from the vette doesn't bolt into our stock location. I need to find an adapter to hook it up. When I have that installed and hooked up to one of my aeroforce interceptor gauges, I'll start the car up. I replace my oil pan gasket and oil pickup tube, and I want to make sure I have adequate psi before I start driving it around.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:19 PM   #42
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Trannyman, when I flush my tranny line with Kooler Klean, do I just hook it up with the straight tranny line and spray it in? Once the can stops flowing, I read that your still suppose to hold the button as it sprays air through the system which helps to evaporate whats still left in the trans line/trans cooler.
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Most shops as well as myself like to use the can both directions, use half of it one way and the other half the other way. I attach a piece of rubber line from the free end down into a drain pan so it doesnt go everywhere. If you have a blow gun then LIGHTLY blow air through it to get any remains out though it will evaporate over time. You may want to wear a mask too as its pretty potent stuff, definately have the door open!
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:28 PM   #44
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Is the tranny fill tube bolt an M6 x 1.00? I figured I would bolt the tube in once I fiinished with everything else. Well I can't get my M6 x 1.0 bolt in. I got it half way in, but I can't figure out how to get a ratchet in their, and with my Nut driver I can't generate enough torque. Tomorrow I need to pick up the adapter for my oil sending unit, and put the tires on and hope everything works alright.
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I am very interested in your experience with the Z-pack clutches if you care to give some insight once you get it running.
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Scotty the big question isnt the 2-3 shift with the Zpack, it is what is the difference with the same exact fresh rebuilt trans and shift kit with OE, THEN torn back apart to put the Zpack in for comparison. With a new trans there is really nothing to compare, it better shift much improved over a worn out trans! With the shift kit and clutch feeds set up right, sorry if I sound like a broken record, the OE cluches work great and I have not seen the need for a anything different clutches but again as I mentioned above you are not comparing apples to apples unless you are only replacing one component and not part of a complete rebuild.
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The trans is up and running. I have a few things that I need to address still. My brakes are squeeking horribly since the car sat outside for a month and my new rotors have rust all over them. I also need to bring my car back in for an alignment (NTB 5 yr warranty) as my camber is off a bit and that is causing my tires to rub a bit (bfgoodrich KDWS 235*50*18).

The torsen diff is AMAZING this morning while I was testing it in the rain. I turned on to a major intersection while it was raining and gave it like 60% power while initiating the turn and I could feel the power going from one wheel to the other. Normally I would have just spun the inside tire but this time I could feel both tires fighting for every last bit of traction. At lunch today I had to do a U-turn on a busy street and I need to mash the gas to merge in with traffic. I needed to hang onto the steering wheel as the car just pulls so hard around sharp corners. I'm sure this wasn't exactly great on the cv shafts but it was pretty cool having the front of the car actually pull hard around the corners instead of getting the deadly one tire burnout.

I'm going to pull the torsen out either next summer or during winter recess between my college semesters and see how its doing. I need to post a bunch of pictures of my rebuild (I have around 300 or so). I need to find an easier way than using imageshack.us

I did notice that my shifts weren't as hard while under full throttle with the transgo kit. My wbodyshift kit hit harder under full power, but the transgo definitely is a bit firmer than stock. I might try increasing my line pressure via my powertuner. I haven't messed around with my dhp 1.5v trans settings, so this maybe an excuse to play around with them.
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Glad you got it up and running!
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Glad to hear you got it together and its working good for you! Also good to hear someone that has the torsen diff and and how it is working. The Transgo shift kit is not a performance kit and the shifts arent going to be much firmer than stock unless you make changes. The Wbody store shift kit uses spacers to limit/block accumulator travel which gives you higher pressure during a shift. The transgo kit is a progressive spring setup that will give higher pressure sooner than a stock spring but not as much as just using longer spacers.
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Scotty the big question isnt the 2-3 shift with the Zpack, it is what is the difference with the same exact fresh rebuilt trans and shift kit with OE, THEN torn back apart to put the Zpack in for comparison. With a new trans there is really nothing to compare, it better shift much improved over a worn out trans! With the shift kit and clutch feeds set up right, sorry if I sound like a broken record, the OE cluches work great and I have not seen the need for a anything different clutches but again as I mentioned above you are not comparing apples to apples unless you are only replacing one component and not part of a complete rebuild.

You're not a broken record. Im more curious than anything and I guess the main thing that caught my attention with the Z-Pack clutches is their reported better heat dissipation. But you are also right in the comparison, its not really and apples to apples when you put those in during a rebuild rather than put the stock set in, pull those out then put in the Z-Packs.
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