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Old 07-09-2008, 08:58 PM   #11
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im about a half hour from bergen county so i dont see a trip being a problem. mod day sounds nice post what u wanna do sweetheart
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:21 PM   #12
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up..still not running right
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:08 PM   #13
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Well first off let me explain how the o2's work. You have an O2 sensor that reads both banks of the engine. The front 3 cylinders wich are 135 and the rear 3 wich are 246. So when you get a code for Lean bank one or something to that extent there is no way to tell wich ''side'' of the engine is actually running lean. For example if you have a bad injector on the back of the engine it is going to throw a code for lean bank one.Got me?



With that being said....I have a cupple questions.You have to know some kind of history on the car before you can start to diagonoise somthing that is wrong.


How Did you test the injectors?
What was the fuel pressure actually at at idle?



Describe more about the problems you are having as far as driveability goes.

Is the problem only at idle?
Does the car run rough under heavy acceleration?
Does it happen all the time?
If not how long?
Is there anything you can do to make it stop? Give it gas ect?
How many miles does the Fuel injectors have?
You said the car has always had the lean bank one code? Did the problem your having now always exist also?
What was done to the car around when the problem started?
And what mods do you have on the car?



Not to put you through any more headach or anything but with drivability problems along with idle i'd have to say that it is an injector if the fuel pressure is where it's suppose to be at and other factors are met. It's just about the only logical thing that can actually reduce fuel after the fuel rails if the pressure is good. But lets do a little more thinking.


Ill be here till you fix the problem. I know that these things are a pita but you got to think them through. Just because you have a cel for something doesent always mean thats what the problem actually is.

And I know you may not have all the Knowledge and tools as others but well get through it and get it solved. So lets see what ya got.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:37 AM   #14
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Your symptoms sound like an intake leak. Did you spray TB cleaner on and around the EGR tube yet? Another way to find it is to get some vacuum caps and go through the vacuum manifold on top of the S/C, take off the vacuum lines one at a time and replace them with the cap. If there is no change pull the cap off and put the line back on again, continue until you have checked them all.

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Old 09-08-2008, 12:43 AM   #15
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That would have to be one hell of an intake leak to cause issues like that. Now as far as the fuel trims it doesent take much for them to go to -16. If it was that it would have to be huge wich means anybody with a set of ears could probably hear it.


I can unplug the vac line off of my car straight off the lim intake and there are barley any changes in idle...just idles a tad higher is all...and of coarse the trimms are out of wack
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That would have to be one hell of an intake leak to cause issues like that. Now as far as the fuel trims it doesent take much for them to go to -16 (In her other post she says, "The long term fuel trim is pegged at 16.4"). If it was that it would have to be huge wich means anybody with a set of ears could probably hear it.

You would think you could hear it but when this happened on mine there was not the usual vacuum leak hissing sound. I kept tuning my LTFTs and they kept staying + no mater what; and then one day they pegged to +14 - +16 that's when i knew i had a problem and needed to find it. Turned out to be the EGR tube. It cracked about 1/2 way around the tube where it met the intake manifold. They don't always crack like mine did, some can be cracked worse some not as bad. Either way if it is cracked it is bad and needs to be replaced.


I can unplug the vac line off of my car straight off the lim intake and there are barley any changes in idle...just idles a tad higher is all...and of coarse the trimms are out of wack

Like you said, it doesn't take much to get fuel trims out of wack. At the same time it is possible for your system to account and adjust for smaller vacuum leaks. Your system will have quite a bit of a hard time adjusting for a larger vacuum leak.....IF it will run at all.

The only thing that is interesting to me is she had the engine "smoke tested." If so a cracked EGR tube would have showed up then.

Keep us informed and let us know how its going and/or what it was.
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The only thing that is interesting to me is she had the engine "smoke tested."
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