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^^^NICE!!! HAHA That is beautiful man!!

Not mine but a video that I saw a while back.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/G...out_143876.htm

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3.4", 3" cated DP, SLP Air box, TB spacer, 180* Thermo, "Bilemke Tuning".

^^Both those vids...Fkn Sweet!

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"True measure of a man's strength is his self control in time of great stress" - ME
2002 GTP: U-Bend and Resonator Delete; Mufflers Modded; K&N Short Ram Air; WS6 Ram Air Hood

Dam were those both automatics, and is that what the trac on and off button does is make both wheels spin when one starts? Nice burnouts.

Trac button off simply keeps the traction system from engaging, which will try to stop your burnout if you leave it on. The traction system's purpose is to keep the front wheels from spinning in slippery conditions.

Turning it off will allow you to do a burnout, but it doesn't protect you from any damage.

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2004 Impala LS - got some mods sold!!!
2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STI

NAIOA moderator Still Imp'n, just in a different Imp.

it is true that if you burn out too much with the 4T60E trans or the 4T65E trans that you can blow up the differential. i know this for a fact because i ended up doing that in my old car which had the 4T60E trans. then i got my 02 GP GT. my father works at a tranny shop for a living, he has specialized in transmissions for years. once i got my 02 he called me down and showed me what happens when you burn out too much, and it can possibly only take one time. someone brought an 03 GP GT in for service, my dad pulled apart the transmission already knowing the problem and showed them and myself what happened. so people shouldn't deny the fact that it happens quite often just because it hasn't happened to them. the same thing happens with monte carlos and impalas as well. i've seen this stuff first hand, not to mention, my buddy with the same car i have just blew his up a month ago. these cars are not meant for the abuse unless you have the GTP, the GTP is the performance model.

Even the GTP trans cant really take that much more. The 4T65E-HD is surely stronger but theres also alot more power bolted to it.

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2002 GTP 2DR Red Fire Mettalic

The trac button does'nt fully disengage the traction control unfortunately.

Maybe on the GP. It does on the Impala. The only thing that can't be turned off on the Impala is differential score protection. For that you just have to disable it in the tune.

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2004 Impala LS - got some mods sold!!!
2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STI

NAIOA moderator Still Imp'n, just in a different Imp.

No it does'nt, why would the Impala with the same engine and tranny work completley different than a Grand Prix?

We do have different OSIDs. Different EBCMs. Turning off traction control does just that. All that is left is the drive train abuse modes (like diff score protection). Some people confuse that with traction control, though.

When my car's traction control engages the message center has "Traction Active". Doesn't do that, nor exhibit any of the same tendencies when traction control is off and the drive train abuse modes are disabled.

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2004 Impala LS - got some mods sold!!!
2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STI

NAIOA moderator Still Imp'n, just in a different Imp.

Soooo..... basically it boils down to "The light on my dash does'nt show it's active, so therefor it's not"?

Talk about selective reading...

I know what traction control feels like, and I know what drive train abuse modes feel like. Completely different.

For one, when traction control engages the ABS modulator pulses trying to slow the wheels down (assuming you're in a slippery weather condition). The transmission upshifts a gear to limit torque at the wheels, spark is dropped to limit torque, and in extreme cases injectors are shut off.

Now, abuse modes are similar, but lack two key points. They don't engage the ABS modulator, and they don't cause the transmission to upshift. Don't believe me? Read GM's own SI manual about it.

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2004 Impala LS - got some mods sold!!!
2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STI

NAIOA moderator Still Imp'n, just in a different Imp.

I'm gonna subscribe to this thread. I could give a crap less about a burnout, but seeing you two argue about stuff is better than HBO. You two should have your own section. Are there any other ongoing threads where you guys are having it out?

You know me. Gotta hash it out with what's right.

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2004 Impala LS - got some mods sold!!!
2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STI

NAIOA moderator Still Imp'n, just in a different Imp.

I love this stuff

You shouldn't have to look very hard. Sabre and Street Wolf are like an every day thing.

I'm with BlueGTP.

putting it in 2nd lets the car not upshift to 3 then downshift again after the burnout and you put it to the floor to take off. Sabre my GT never did that N/A, now that its supercharged it does it regularly. as for the traction control, Street is correct, unless you pull the ABS fuse traction control is still active when you push the button.

I was thinking about doing this mod, instead of pulling the fuse. OQCGP :: Ontario Quebec Club Grand Prix

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99 GT- L36:GenV:N*:1.9 rollers:Pacesetters:slp catback:3ep trans:Intense Input shaft:stock pulley
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TCS DOES fully disengage when you push the button to shut it off.

Im not sure where you got your education from but I would surely ask for a REFUND, half of what you post makes no sense at all.

Exactly! Which is why absolutely no one in the Grand Prix community who knows what their doing never ever, in any circumstances, pulls fuse #28.



Your so smart, I've been in the GP community for 6 years and I still wish I could be as smart as you. Dipsh*t.