you and cryo treating I tell ya.....

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2001 GTP street car- GT45 turbo,Stage 4 Intense turbo cam,FMIC,150 wet, double roller timing chain, Diamond forged coated pistons 8:0:1, Diamond piston rings, cryoed L32 connecting rods, Cryoed crank, Clevite77 main bearings, Clevite77 cam bearings, Clevite77 L32 rod bearings, ARP Everything, Intense/meizere true billet Flexplate, Custom UIM, Intense oil pressure kit, Cometic 4 layer head gaskets, OE-R lifters, Cryoed L67 block, ATI turbo dampner, MUCH MORE, 6 more to choose from ASE Certified

Hey, gotta take advantage of whats out there. And you're one to talk.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

For the price and what Will illuded to about the longevity, perhaps cryo may be the ticket.

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04 Indy SS build #972
XP, TOG's, Lightning injectors, 2.8 pulley, 105 CC springs, Wizaired, 3.29 gears, tripleedgeperformance ported blower, machined LIM, 180* tstat, RS12YC@.053, FP rewire, Alt rewire, stage 1 V boost, PRJ wires, Stage 2 IC

Ultimately I would like to run a set and see how long they last, then run another set treated and see what the difference is.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

That would be nice. The test would only be accurate for your level of mods, however, it would give some type for reference for both the plugs and cryo.

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04 Indy SS build #972
XP, TOG's, Lightning injectors, 2.8 pulley, 105 CC springs, Wizaired, 3.29 gears, tripleedgeperformance ported blower, machined LIM, 180* tstat, RS12YC@.053, FP rewire, Alt rewire, stage 1 V boost, PRJ wires, Stage 2 IC

I doubt mods would affect the test much past anything done to the ignition system.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

With those plugs it will according to Brisk.

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04 Indy SS build #972
XP, TOG's, Lightning injectors, 2.8 pulley, 105 CC springs, Wizaired, 3.29 gears, tripleedgeperformance ported blower, machined LIM, 180* tstat, RS12YC@.053, FP rewire, Alt rewire, stage 1 V boost, PRJ wires, Stage 2 IC

Well keep in mind, the plugs were developed for a Lamborghini, a V12 4 valves per cyl. with 11.0:1 compression which would require something of a stout ignition system compared to our 8.5:1 compression that might abuse the plugs a little more than our cars would.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

My local canuk supplier doesn't give too good a deal on these things and they're definitely a step away from ordinary, as I'm traditionally an Autolite fan.

Non the less they do work, several locals are running the 14s and 15s which are 103ish equivalents. I sell the 17s for N/A cars, 15s for stock to mildly modded supercharged and 14s for higher modified. I'm going to try the 12s in my M112 setup and see if it pukes or not.

I've found its better to run a colder heat range than normal with these plugs. I've seen them run on boost over 12 but 12 seems a prudent cutoff point. I wouldn't use them on turbo or nitrous. By comparison, naturally aspirated customer of mine took a sh*t, loved em.

Will, I would be very interested in your insights and experiences with the M112. Im going to get the set from Lee and stick them in my car and see what comes of it cause Im just way too curious.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!