Im posting this because Im seeing a trend that is not a good one and makes for a lot of extra work for the mods and admins (not that its a work load like a full time job, but just the same).

1. Posting in the correct areas. I have had to move a LOT of posts lately. Ive been leaving re-directs so people can find the posts and see that it was posted in the incorrect area and I usually note the post that I moved it to further drive the point. Its getting to the point Im going to stop leaving the re-directs and just let people hunt for them. I hate to be that way but each section has information at the top of the page that describes what posts are to put in that particular section.

Please everyone, pay a bit more attention to where you are posting. Stuff happens and moving a post every now and then is to be expected but its getting to the kinda crazy level here.

2. Post titles. Titling your post 'Help' or 'Could this be it' or any number of other totally non-informative titles doesnt help. Please be descriptive in your titles. This helps the new people coming in (if you havent noticed we are over 2000 members now) and helps with searching which I know everyone uses. I have some ideas as to the actions I'll take to pursuede people to use more descriptive titles but Id rather not have to. Please, it doesnt take that much longer to type 'Help, I have a miss at idle' or something like that.

3. Thanks Icon. Some of you may have noticed that at the bottom right of each post is a thanks icon that you can click on to tell the person that made the post that that particular information was helpful. This is along the lines of the rep icon, but easier to use. All you have to do is click on it and its done.

Please make use of this so that those that are posting useful stuff get recognition for their time and efforts. If its bad information and it becomes a habitual thing, use the Reputation Icon to post negative feedback about such comments. Use these tools here so, again, that not only will the community know as a whole but also the new people that come who is contributing good information.

I dont want to make this place a drag, but it does need to run smoothly and we all contribute to that. There are many of you that help out the mods and admins police the forum when we miss something and we greatly appreciate that. But if we pay attention to the small things then the bigger stuff kinda falls into place. I have a sticky in the Introduction area that if all new people will read then it goes over some of this stuff and a few other things. I may start ammending my posts to point to that in that section so that hopefully that will help some. I encourage all of you that frequent that area to do the same. I'll sticky this for a few days so that everyone has a chance to read it.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

As much as I hate to come across as a jerk, I will no longer leave re-directs for moved posts. Despite my post here for everyone to pay attention to there have been virtually no reduction of the number of posts ending up in the wrong direction.

Please dont PM me asking what happened to your post, if its not where you posted it, you'll have to look for it. If this doesnt help I may start just deleting the posts without notice.

Every section in the forum has a description at the top of the page. If there is a problem with the descriptions that makes it confusing as to where a particular post should be, then that you should make us aware of and we can try to correct that.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

can we delete useless posts??? or consolidate them down

Example: New people come on and ask what is everything they should do to their newly aquired car and it's always the same responses, so when I do a search for something that has to do with a minor mod, I get 20 of these threads I have to dig through to find exactly what I'm looking for.

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I dunno about that. There would be pros and cons to that. They should be using the search feature to get information like that but perhaps we could or someone could put together something to go in the How To section or something we could sticky. But I doubt that even with that it would alleviate such questions as most dont pay attention to stuff like that.

You dont want to become non-responsive to such questions, but at the same time, they are asked so frequently that anyone that used search for that would find just about anything they wanted to know.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

I am with Syn on this one! If people can not read or look over the whole site before posting their post and cant figure out what section is for what? It should not be left up to the Admin to do the favor of leaving a redirect for each misplaced post. People who come to this board or any other should know the rules and locations where to post their particular question.

Granted on the same note, sometimes people make mistakes, and that should be accounted for, but you see time and time again a lot of the same people doing it over and over. Common sense would dictate that eventually everyone would get a clue where things go on this board. It is not like our board is overly complicated or anything. Frankly some people are just to lazy to take the extra 60 seconds to look over the entire board to see where their post might be the most affective.

Just my 2c on that one

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1.9 Modified Rockers, TOGs, 180 Tstat, PRJ 10.4 Wires, P/P Gen 3, SLP Ram Air Hood/Wizaired CAI, Gen 1 Spoiler, 3.5 Pulley, 18" TSW Mondellos w/ AGX Struts, SSC Gen II Springs

It has gotten a LOT better in the last two weeks or so. I may modify the re-direct some to account for, as you say, some people making mistakes.

I see many from new members, which to an extent, I understand. However, it would not hurt to take the time to look over the descriptions and ask yourself does this post belong here?

I will probably amend it to state something along the lines that if you have fewer than say 5 posts, maybe 10 posts, then I will leave a redirect. After that you are on your own and will have to find your post.

What strikes me in this, since stopping the redirects, Ive had no one contact me and ask me where their post was, which indicates to me they kinda know it was in the wrong place and they found it by looking where it should have been to start with.

We'll see. If the trend continues I'll amend it with the post limit for the redirects. If I could set it up where you could get infractions (for the people that have been here a while) for misplaced posts but not incur the points where you would get banned, then I would do that as well and then after so many infractions your posts start to get deleted.

As I said, Im not trying to be a jerk, but it got absolutely insane there for a while moving all the posts and while I dont mind helping out with that from time to time, there comes a point when you got to be held accountable for your actions. Its not like its a lot of work and if its a matter of the descriptions not being clear enough to know, then thats on me but I would need the members of the community to let me know so that issue can be addressed.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

Okay, it seems the posts in the wrong sections is taking a turn upward again, and its not just he new people coming in. So, here is how this is going to play out and the rules that I will be using going forward.

1 - 5 Posts: I will move your post to the correct section with a re-direct so that you can find it when you come back.

6 - 10 Posts: I will move your post to the correct section leaving no re-direct and you can hunt for it when you come back.

11+ Posts: I will delete your post and you can try again when you come back.

Again, this is not to be a dick or anything like that, but there is absolutely no reason why the time cannot be taken to ensure you are posting in right area. The introduction area is not for questions, as the title suggests, its to introduce yourself, the Lounge area is not the place for transmission questions and so on.

If this had remained just a once in a while occurrence then it would have been no big deal but it is absolutely getting out of control so I am forced to take measures to try and curb this behavior. You can get mad at me all you want, but I put up a welcome message in the Introduction area for the new people to read so as to try and avoid some of this and few people read it. This post has been here for nearly two weeks now and it has not been read a lot either.

So my philosophy is that if you cant take the time to heed the messages that are there to try and avoid any issues, then dont get mad at me when I take additional action to correct what is wrong.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!

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I would like to admit that i am 1 of several that have done this (a few times recently), and i do apologize for your insanity caused by us. My excuse is i wasnt reading the titles as well as i should, so again thanks and sorry. Your time is appreciated.

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HUD gauge pod, Stage 1 Alt booster, cat/u-bend delete, custom 4" FWI, 18" Sachhi S45

Not a biggie, its just after you do it a few hundred times it kinda gets old and you arent the only one either. Admittedly, the section descriptions I wish were under the names of the sections so it would be easier to see, but its not like its impossible either.

I did check to see if I could move the descriptions there but I did not see a way to do it. So for now, just take a second to read at the top of the page and make sure that what you are post about will belong there.

In some cases it may be hard to determine and thats okay, I make allowances for that.

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Scotty Hall
Bartlesville, OK
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it.

The only limitation you will ever face in life is yourself!