*** Ultimate HID thread ***

[Rocket468]

yea, lots of info here.

[bula81069]

this is an awesome tread!!! Thanks for all the info so far. Can't wait to go back and reed once i get home and mod my HID's too

[Gearhed42]

I have just read through this thread and most of the linked ones regarding HID upgrades on the GP with the 9007. I found a 9007/2 kit on ebay that has the seperate halogen bulb for the high beam and it seems to me that this is the solution to make my car "street legal" for inspection and still have decent funtionality. It seems that it all makes sense having the halogen bulb over the ballast which is strikingly similar to the 9007 halogen bulb having 2 filaments one over the other. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this setup and BackInBlack seems to be the brain of this operation do you know anything about these and do you think they will work?? Thanks everyone awesome info!!!

[jcprix]

I started with the HID/Halogen lamp. All it is good for is passing inspection. The filament in the halogen is not over the HID light source, but set back which results in a flood light on high, there is no beam. In addition, the halogen Lamp I had (and reported by others) is urine yellow.

[Zef_66]

Originally Posted by jcprix

I started with the HID/Halogen lamp. All it is good for is passing inspection. The filament in the halogen is not over the HID light source, but set back which results in a flood light on high, there is no beam. In addition, the halogen Lamp I had (and reported by others) is urine yellow.

Where did you guys get these? I am still looking for a set of HID lows, halogen highs. Any links?

Thanks.

[jcprix]

ZZP

[Gearhed42]

I found them on ebay and i asked the seller for some up close pictures to see if indeed the halogen bulb was over the ballast and in the close up pictures of the ballast the halogen filament and the arc gap of the ballast seemed to be lined up very closely. So going by what backinblack has been posting it should work pretty good. Thats really all im looking to do is pass inspection but i want the beam to be somewhat usefull. Oh and zef_66 i found a lot of them to choose from on ebay. If you have trouble finding them i can send you some links.

[jcprix]

I started with the ZZP Halogen/HIDs. I live in the boonies and use highs to spot deer and moose. The halogen part was simply useless. I then purchased the telescopics and made them into tilters (or at least really close) to get a high beam. Since I have the ZZPs in hand I can tell you that there is no physical way to get them close to the specifications of the 9007/9004 lamp with regards to vertical spacing. You may get them stacked, even then the distance will be way off and you will have to sacrifice the beam pattern in high or low position. Not trying to be glass MT here, but at least you won't be bumming when you get them and they are not as expected.

[Gearhed42]

Do you have any easy suggestions to modifying the tele ballasts? Everything ive year seems to be a pita!! Who would have thought this whole HID thing would be this rediculous....

[jcprix]

It's not the ballasts that are modified, it's the the lamp assm and solonoid on the lamp itself. Carefully review this tread from the first page. If you understand it, go for it. If confused, you might want to think hard before starting down the path.

The conversion from tele to tilt is in this tread a few pages up. I think it looks more intimidating than it is. The first step is to adjust the HID source position for proper low beam formation. This will involve a adjustment to the lamp/collar assm (you can see in the images). Next is limit the tele motion from about .250in to .170 inch. You will have to check this motion as some lamps may have different travel. This may well be enough to provide you with a high beam you like. It's easy as it's done by adding non magnetic spacer(s) to the motion solenoid. A third step is to dremel the guide grooves in the lamp and add a stop to limit the tele further and induce the tilt.

Once you take them apart, they are not that complicated. That typed, you need to be a person to be able to understand motion relationships and proceed carefully as once you remove material, it may be difficult to put back.