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Symptoms of a bad or failed Crankshaft Position Sensor : The two big symptoms are the loss of spark after the engines dies and the loss of a tachometer signal, both of which are controlled by the Crankshaft Position Sensor. The engine being difficult if not impossible to start are a result of no signal being sent to the Ignition Control Module from the Crankshaft Position Sensor. In examining my bad Crankshaft Position Sensor I saw no marks on it that would have indicated the vanes of the harmonic balancer had come in contact with the device and damaged it. So I can only surmise that the device fails as a result of heat or poor manufacturing quality. Information about the Harmonic Balancer Puller : The harmonic balancer puller for the 3800 engine is nothing unusual with respect to the puller itself. The oddity with the GM harmonic balancer is the bolts used to pull the balancer off, not the center threaded forcing screw (the screw that goes in the center of the harmonic balancer puller yoke that pushes against the crank). The puller bolts are of a very uncommon thread pitch, 1/4-28. A very fine thread to say the least. M6 x 1.0mm may also work since the thread pitch is very close but you would definitely risk messing up the threads in the harmonic balancer. I experimented with a set of M6 bolts and was able to get two or three turns on the bolt before it got to the point of tightening up to where it would screw in no more. Whether that is enough to pull the balancer off I don't know. The second oddity with respect to getting the balancer off is the thread length of the puller bolts (Again, not the center forcing screw). The commercially available kits all have very short thread lengths. I can only imagine to keep from damaging the Crankshaft Position Sensor. However, if you know the sensor to be bad, then this probably matters little. The next issue would be making sure that all the bolts go in at equal depths. This is one feature of the commercially available and after market pullers. However, again, you have some wiggle room here. I took some measurements and eyeballed a few things when I had my puller off. The thread depth of the threads on the balancer itself are about ¼ – 3/8”. Then there is another 3/8” behind that (the depth of the vanes on the harmonic balancer). So as long as you keep the thread length on the puller bolts to 1/2” to 3/4” you should have no trouble with this. The last thing to be aware of is the overall length of the bolt. There is not a lot of room between the balancer and the frame of the car. For this reason I would not recommend a bolt length of 3”. I used 4” bolts (all I could find) and just barely got the balancer off only because I was able to screw the bolts into the balancer deeper, otherwise I would not have been able to pull it off. Removal Process Step 1: Step 2: Step 3: Step 4: Step 5: Step 6: Step 7: Basically prepare for at least a little strain, but it will break loose. I do highly recommend using a decently long breaker bar. As Chris likes to say, leverage rules. I did spray a little penetrating fluid around the bolt. Don't know if it helped or not, but I didn't see how it could hurt. Step 8: Note: If you damage the crankshaft threads and you could run into real trouble so take all the necessary precautions to make sure that doesn't happen. If you don't have a complete kit, then you may have to get creative. Ultimately I put in a 3/8” socket wrench extension with the square end facing out so the forcing screw could push off that without damaging the crank threads. Make sure your puller bolts (the three that go into the crows foot) do not have too long of thread length. I don't know how it could occur, but in my research there was concern of damaging the harmonic balancer vanes on the back side of the balancer if the bolts went in to far. I took some pictures and personally I just don't see how it could happen. The worse that I saw could happen is that the bolts go in too far and damage the plastic shield behind it, officially called a foreign object deflector. Once you have the puller set up, start turning the forcing screw to pull the balancer off. It wont take much to get it off, but you will probably have to dismantle the puller so that you can get room to get the balancer out. You can see in the picture below how I used the 3/8” ratchet extension so that the forcing screw of the balancer puller would not go in too deep and damage the threads of the crankshaft. The square recessed end facing out gives the forcing screw to settle in and push off on without slipping. Here you can see how the puller looks and how the 3/8” ratchet extension helps. Notice also that I put some electrical tape around the threads of the forcing screw. Probably overkill, but I didn't want to take any chances. If you have a good quality harmonic balancer puller kit, the forcing screw will be hollow so that smooth rods will fit up in it so that the threads of the forcing screw wont come in contact with the threads of the crank and damage them. In the picture below you can see that the rod would serve the same purpose as the 3/8” ratchet extension. Here is another view. Step 9: I know the pictures are backwards, cut me some slack. It was 30 degrees outside with a 20mph wind. My brain was kinda slow firing. You cant take off the Foreign Object Shield unless you unplug the Crankshaft Position Sensor. Step 10: Step 11: Note: My bolts had thread sealant on them so I would suggest they are put back in with the same. So, with that in mind, I would take the time to clean the threads really good. Step 12: Re-Install Process Step 13: Step 14: Note: The Foreign Object Shield also serves as a wiring guide/protector for the camshaft position sensor harness. Be sure the harness is secured to the shield with the hook that is on the shield. Step 15: Here is the Key on the crankshaft itself. Here is a view of the key way on the Harmonic Balancer. Step 16: Once you have the vice grips re-positioned to the back side of the flywheel, put the thread locker on the bolt and start the final tightening of the bolt. If you have a breaker bar, give it all you got. I believe the torque spec for that bolt is around 200 ft/lbs or a little less. Even if I had an impact wrench I think I would still get on it with a good breaker bar just to be sure. Notice how the vice grips are now on the backside of the flywheel vs. earlier when they were on the front side. Here is the thread locker I used. Very easy to work with and only takes a dab. Whatever you do DO NOT use the red thread locker. Step 17: Step 18: Step 19: Step 20: Step 21: Step 22: Step 23: | ||||||
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